with Gillie Kleiman. Grief dances, and newts.

First broadcast 8 October 2020

In this episode my guest is the artist Gillie Kleiman. The starting point of her work is an interest in dance and in choreography, but her art manifests in a variety of forms. That includes her unfinished project Grief Dances. It’s based on dances Gillie experienced while grieving. Because Grief Dances is unfinished, it doesn’t yet have a set form. One exciting possibility is that audiences could read descriptions of the dances whilst in a theatre auditorium, the stage left empty aside from what viewers imagine to be there. Gillie also has fascinating things to say about what a post-work future might look like, where we work less and do other things more. And that includes recognising the value in activities like vegetable growing and dog walking.